He wants out but. Not a popular opinion. Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. Why SW stayed in NC all that time is beyond me. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. Watts said he strangled Shanann in their bed after he said she told her their marriage was over and she said he would never see their children again. Amy Miller, executive director of Violence Free Colorado, said people who are being abused by an intimate partner often behave in ways that seem counterintuitive to those around them. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. Easier said than done, of course. On August 16, the authorities discovered Shananns body buried in a shallow grave nearby, and the childrens bodies were found hidden in the oil tanks. Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. They met in 2010 through mutual friends and married in November 2012. She ruled EVERY aspect of their lives and he complied with it all. He tried counseling but she wouldn't participate. Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. Chris was arrested by Frederick Police on August 15, 2018, after he had failed a polygraph test, and subsequently, confessed to murdering his wife, Shanann. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. I think she emasculated Chris. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. A 34-year-old Shanann was also 15 weeks pregnant with a boy they planned on naming Nico. The pair began dating and married in 2012, with Shanann quickly settling into what seemed to be her dream roles of wife and mother. The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children, but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. To strangle your adorable toddler?? On the day of his arrest, Chris was fired from his job. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. They met in 2010 through mutual friends and married in November 2012. Its not a nice feeling. Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. This is not necessarily true, but it could be true. At the time of Shanann's death, they had two young daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste. The two had a tumultuous relationship, and divorced in 2013. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. According to Shananns family, they werent consulted about the film and only came to know about the film when it was already in production. I think they were married 3-4 years. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. She obviously would have felt comfortable enough to leave her girls with him, to leave him for a weekend, etc. When Watts visited the Hair Jazz salon in Aberdeen where Sandi Rzucek worked, it was clear to the hairdressers [Sandis co-workers] that Watts wasnt happy, and Sandi actually told them then [in early August 2018] that the marriage wasnt working, and that the couple were separating. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. As early as August 8th, Shanann confided in Cassie Rosenberg and Nickole Atkinson that her husband wanted a divorce [she didnt], but not right away. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. NEVER. The fact that Shanann was talking to a divorce lawyer about custody in April, three-and-a-half months before the murders, suggests there was a protracted period of unhappiness, and acknowledgement from both sides that things were falling apart. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. She noted that most murders of American women are committed by intimate partners, not strangers. He is also reportedly back in touch with Kessinger, who changed her name after the murders, per Daily Mail. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. Oct. 29 2020, Published 3:05 p.m. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. That summer, Chris had gone from a loving husband to a cheater to a killer. There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. Well, she shouldnt have . I am the louder, extroverted one in my marriage and my husband is the quieter, more agreeable type. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. I knew Chris as a middle schooler and high schooler, he went to school with my kids. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. In an interview with a local news station on Tuesday, Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. I feel bad for as I know she knew right after the NC trip that he was cheating on her and her marriage was coming to an end. You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. It seemed choreographed. Yes . Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. "It's horrific": Christopher Watts' sweetheart talks around for the first time as sentencing in Frederick murders pulls near The woman also known as authorities before Watts' arrest for murdering his girlfriend and two daughters Whenever Nichol Kessinger Taylor, "We will get together when I get home". Anger, as in a simmering boil. Even though the. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. The juxtaposition of Shananns seemingly idyllic life and its violent end has stunned the public and attracted widespread media attention. To think that you have been replaced is scary, when you know there isnt a way to fix things anymore. But none of those descriptions really explain what led him to commit murder. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. In that picture of CW in that dumb shirt SW had made (just her, the girls had *nothing* to do with it) and made him wear, hes showing his teeth but he does not seem happy. He was an attorney correct? Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) - YouTube 0:00 / 7:24 #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about. The heartbreaking messages hint at a crumbling marriage and a wife who can't figure out why her husband seems to suddenly want a divorce. Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. Thats so sad. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. I love Chris! she wrote. He'd stopped touching her, kissing her, would barely speak unless spoken to. The documentary investigates the 2018 crimes of Chris Watts, 35, who brutally killed his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and their two daughters Bella, four and Celeste aged three. "They were going to separate. I get really frustrated with people who peddle multi level marketing crap and expect their friends and family to subsidize their lifestyle through buying crap they dont want. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for., Need help? Shanann was trying to make sense of it all. On June 11 . Shan'ann thought - or hoped - the marriage was stuttering slightly. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. In July, Chris flew to North Carolina to meet up with his family. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. The first indication that something might be wrong in their daughter and her husband's marriage was during a family trip this past summer. In an interview with a. , Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing companywhileChris Watts was employed by Anadarko Petroleum (though he was fired on the day of his arrest) per The Coloradan. At all. In June 2018, Shanann told her husband she was pregnant with their third child. Shanann Watts' FIRST husband: Interview excerpts Thought-provoking videos 6.44K subscribers Subscribe 401 Share 22K views 2 years ago Everyone deserves to know the Truth: That "God is Love". ; she had already spent several *5* or so weeks without him before and that was the unfortunate reasoning for the freedom to start his affair with NK. Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. But wasn't he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? All parents would want the best education for their children. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. The YT video I watched as referenced above has a few parts to it that are quite informative and have helped me to fully understand both sides of this marriageand actually if you ask me, there were more than twothere were 4 CW, SW, NK and his parents (mom) were all involved in the marriage I think there were multiple influences and opinions that were making things toxic on both ends. Thats what was so difficult to get out of. Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. It amazes me to see photos and videos of Bella and CeeCee and the love they had for one another is plain to see. Kessinger says something to same effect, that Watts wanted to sell his home, but not right away. Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. I think I am starting to understand both sides of the fence which may have been prompted by the newly released Netflix Documentary or it may be because this case always sucked me in. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. In an . In fact neither was true, divorce proceedings hadnt even started as far as we know. How did things change so quickly? Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger. The bankruptcy case was closed in October 2015. She was desperate when she realized he was done. Chris told Shanann he wanted a divorce a few hours later. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . You are the reason I was brave enough to agree to number 3!, On June 19, she posted a screenshot of their texts after she sent him a photo of her ultrasound; he replied that he loved the little peanut already. He has Shannon too did a lot for the family. At a later hearing, the bail was set at $5 million, and Chris was required to put down 15% to be released. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. After all, it's not hard to see why people thought that. I like nice things and having nice experiences. Tons of couples go through this type of stuff! No joke. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. According to their bankruptcy documents, they made a combined $100,000 and had a mortgage payment of $3,000 per month on their $400,000 home. But I could be wrong. All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. When you think about it it makes no sense Shanann would want to rekindle a romantic flame with Watts at Myrtle Beach then invite her parents along (and children). He was an average student, pretty smart. According to the lawyer, after an argument over divorce, Chris strangled Shanann to death. Shanann, who posted on social media as part of her job selling health products, interspersed her sales pitches with adoring messages about her husband and kids. I just thank God he took the right Interesting none-the-less. But besides the reference above, from page 2106 of the Discovery Discovery documents, we also know that Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, at least a month before she fell pregnant. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. Chris and Shanann had their first date August 10, 2010. They were facing financial ruin and so, to admit they werent thriving meant a further lose of income. Watts had two daughters with her husband, named Bella and Celeste. Having someone listen to him was a total shock to him. Words have devastating consequences. So they had been together only 8 years and 3 day at the time on that fatal morning. My relationship with my ex-husband ended up terrible but we divorced and now we are with great other people! Perpetrators may control their victims using sexual, emotional, verbal, psychological, financial or digital abuse. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Chris had been pulling away from her for a long time but once she got pregnant he was trapped and she knew it. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. I need you to meet me halfway. It is something I myself have done (not proud and definitely not in the same situation of course) but I can see where things can pile up and become hard to face or tell the truth on. But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. She said he had an empty head, forget everything. In 2013, the couple bought a large, five-bedroom home in Frederick, Colorado prior to the birth of their first daughter, Bella. He was charged with five counts . I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. On August 13, 2018, Watts strangled his wife, Shanann, in their 4,177-square-foot home. Yeah, she was a real gem. Daughter of Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. I hate to sound victim blaming and this is in no way an excuse for her husband to murder her and the children for gods sake!! If this information is available somewhere where I can access it can you tell me where? But this wasnt the trigger, it couldnt be, because Shanann already knew about the divorce, and had known for a long time. Chris initially cooperated with police and. She was previously married to Chris Watts. At the time of her death, she was fifteen weeks pregnant with a son who she had named Nico Lee Watts; her date of delivery was January 31, 2019. On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. There is content out there that confirms not only did Shanann know a split was on the cards, but her own family did too. In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. Height [1]IMDb jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_1').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_1', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], });: 5 5. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. According to Watts confessions, he told Shanann on the morning of the murders that he wanted a divorce separation. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. [2]The Denver Post jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_2').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_2', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); Watts Murder Case Being Discussed on Dr. Oz Show. I think chris felt tremendous pressure from the debt and third baby and family issues and feeling controlled and emasculated. Chris had already killed Shanann, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste on Monday, August 13. Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. On August 9, Shanann left for a work trip to Arizona and returned the morning of August 13. Only parents can say that. We can ALL agree (to some degree) that there was something off with CW and there is something we all cant seem to put our finger on when it comes to their relationship and they may have just simply been not good for each other, both with differing personalities, strengths, weaknesses and ways of handling life, setbacks, feelings, etc. Can you imagine her as a single parent? Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? Shanann Watts was born on Tuesday, January 10, 1984 (age 34 years at the time of death), in Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, as Shanann Cathryn Rzucek. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. That would have been apparent to me even if I was someones friend visiting them at a get together. Now, her husband, Chris Watts, is accused of killing her and their two young girls in Frederick, Colorado. And by recording him, for example, reacting to news of the third pregnancy and posting it on Facebook, it was becoming almost impossible to get out of it. Remains believed to belong to their two children were later found nearby. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. Hammering away relentlessly. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. OK honey. Obviously he didnt think it through well enough but I also agree with other posters, he may be someone who is easily pushed over and goes with the flow but having all those strong personality types around him doesnt overshadow the fact that he was harboring a deeper hatred/set of feelings/energy inside, layered deep within himself. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. That same month Shanann and her daughters flew to North Carolina for six weeks to visit family, per Pop Sugar. The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. During the welfare check, the police officer inspected the house but there were no signs of Shanann and her daughters. Hearing their parents noises, Bella came in and Chris told her that her mother was sick. And yet we know while this was happening Shanann still wanted to do a gender reveal. I dont know who he is, she texted a friend on Aug. 7, 2018. There was also a good heart there I can see I think because of this drive and a relentless thrusting of her family onto social media, she lost him an essentially reserved guy somewhere along the way. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. Prosecutors have cited Watts' desire for a fresh start with his mistress, coworker Nichol Kessinger, 30, as his motive in the killings and the Google searches, as well as other facts made public in the documents, provide insight into the state of mind of a man Shanann's father described as a "heartless monster." I think that was the form her OCD took. She was making it very difficult to admit to an affair. Hes my ROCK! she wrote about her husband, Christopher Watts, in May. Nickole Utoft Atkinson, Friend, and Colleague of Shanann Watts. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. I think ur right with all this. thats all she cared about period. They were Watts way of communicating to Kessinger what he just couldnt do with Shanann. Shanann was too busy with her work, if you can call it that, juggling a mountain of debt, and living the high life that Chris Watts checked out of the marriage. Shan'ann Cathryn Watts, born Shan'ann Rzucek was the late wife of murderer Chris Watts. I dated a narcissistic sociopath and I get how incredibly cold and unfeeling they can be. in the future. Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. Our love just grows strong everyday!". I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? If he was completely spineless he wouldnt have had the affair or committed the murder. In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. This case does offer a caution to other couples to communicate openly from both sides, whether from the side being overly controlling or the side that is crushed-in, and being controlled. 80,000 was between both of their salaries. I think he did use this separation or withdrawal narrative and allowed her to once again lead the conversations and try to pry and get more information for his gain and benefitthis would allow him to gaslight, manipulate, tell her what she wanted to hear. How old was she when she married, how long did it last? Place Where Shanann Watts Children were Hidden. He seems to be middle class, possibly depressed due to conflicts and internal struggles *possible psychological issues*, past violent behaviorhe seems like a silent passive-aggressive-explosive type that is unstable and unsteady. Shanann Watts appeared to be fighting for her marriage up until she was murdered by her husband Chris Watts.. Just a couple of weeks after the first trailer for American Murder: The Family Next . On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . She did her schooling from Pinecrest High School in Southern Pines. The thousands in shoes, clothes, purses etc. In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. Remains believed to belong to their two children were. There isnt a loss like it. Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant with the couple's son when Chris strangled her to death in their bedroom. Family (1) Trivia (5) Older sister of Frankie Rzucek. Chris was moved to an out-of-station location due to security concerns on December 3, 2018; he arrived at the maximum-security prison called Dodge Correctional Institution, Waupun, Wisconsin on December 5, 2018. Shanann went on a business trip to Arizona and returned on August 13, 2018, at about 1:48 in the morning; her friend and colleague Nickole Utoft Atkinson had offered to drop her to her home from the airport. From the . I cant come back like this. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. Just Published! They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. Millions of people face this everyday, I know I did. I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. Very charming outside but empty inside. Do there was financial issues going on. #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. Chris Watts opened up about the many cracks in his marriage shortly after being sentenced to life in prison without parole for murdering his family. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. Meanwhile, Chris began his affair with Nichol Kessinger, a woman he worked with, telling her he was separated. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? That was the plan. Like a mercy killing. Yes, she did want to have the good things in life. Hopefully hell spend the rest of his life being emasculated by being another prisoners jail bitch. That is never a good sign. She was brought up in the Moore County of North Carolina. He probably grew up doing whatever she told him to do. Over the summer of 2018, Chris Watts changed. Chris Watts is a textbook Malignant-Covert Somatic Narcissist. So theres a match between a victim siding with a victim. No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. In August of this year, Shanann Watts' marriage was crumbling. And if you dont, youre victim blaming. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? They dont want family, friends or S/Os to know so they secretly go and get this done. Specially after they are both dead! Admittedly, Chris Watts wasn't looking all that great, already. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. "7 years ago I fell in love with you, 5 years ago I married my best friend, my soul mate, I married you!!" Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. should communicate even if it is good or bad information. November 19 saw Chris getting five life sentences: three consecutive and two concurrent, without the possibility of parole; an additional 48 years for the unlawful termination of his wifes pregnancy; 36 years for three charges of tampering with a deceased body. And her house that everyone is talking about? To her credit she was, and she did.
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